Zurich Shield Paint Protection and Interior Protection

Genesiswannabee · Jul 21, 2011

Has anyone had the Zurich Shield system applied by their dealer on their new Genesis? It is suppose the protect both the paint and the interior of the car and comes with a warranty.

Thanks

nextcar · Jul 22, 2011

I think it's common knowledge that you should never get this kind of stuff. Pure profit for dealer and no object data showing benefit for the consumer.

timc1475 · Jul 22, 2011

nextcar said:
I think it's common knowledge that you should never get this kind of stuff. Pure profit for dealer and no object data showing benefit for the consumer.

I agree. I will be putting on a product called opticoat myself. That way I know it will done right and no spots / sections will be missed. This product is permanent one time application, thereafter only wash for life = never wax again. I have the stuff now and am just awaiting the 2012 Genesis sedan r-spec to pop into my local dealers within 100 miles of me. I will have the clear bra on the front end installed 1st. Then a 35% ceramic tinting inside for heat rejection.

http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-coat.html

http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58184

newman · Jul 22, 2011

timc1475 said:
I agree. I will be putting on a product called opticoat myself. That way I know it will done right and no spots / sections will be missed. This product is permanent one time application, thereafter only wash for life = never wax again. I have the stuff now and am just awaiting the 2012 Genesis sedan r-spec to pop into my local dealers within 100 miles of me. I will have the clear bra on the front end installed 1st. Then a 35% ceramic tinting inside for heat rejection.

http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-coat.html

http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58184

Thanks TimC for the tip. Have you used this before? It looks great but I am bit concerned about not messing up a perfect paint job (my car is on order). My current maintenance plans for my Gene will be to seal it every 6 months and wax every three. A product good enough to last 'forever' but easy enough for a mere mortal to apply perfectly SOUNDS really good. I would love to hear someones personal experience.

Cheers,
Newman

RedJet20 · Jul 23, 2011

Genesiswannabee said:
Has anyone had the Zurich Shield system applied by their dealer on their new Genesis? It is suppose the protect both the paint and the interior of the car and comes with a warranty.

Thanks

A complete waste of money. NEVER get that stuff. Extended warranties are also very suspect.

Genesiswannabee · Jul 23, 2011

Interesting. I spoke to my local detailer today that I have used for several years and he recommended that I go ahead with the Zuriich Shield. He indicated that providing it is clayed before and properly applied that it bonds to the clear coat and forms a second layer. To get the best shine and protection he recommended a good carnuba wax be applied over this on a regular basis. I'm not sure if this would have any impact on their warranty, nor am I sure what the terms of their warranty are or if they have a deductible.

I am still sceptical.

scottdk · Sep 5, 2012

timc1475 said:
I agree. I will be putting on a product called opticoat myself. That way I know it will done right and no spots / sections will be missed. This product is permanent one time application, thereafter only wash for life = never wax again. I have the stuff now and am just awaiting the 2012 Genesis sedan r-spec to pop into my local dealers within 100 miles of me. I will have the clear bra on the front end installed 1st. Then a 35% ceramic tinting inside for heat rejection.

http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-coat.html

http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58184

Did you get your car Opticoated yet? Yes? How do you like it? I'm getting my Sonata done on the 14th, and already had the wifes new Optima done. Genesis will be next year, but might be a new/different product depending on my detailer's advice. Amazing product, and even the wheels are Opticoated it's amazing how fast and crazy the product beads water and cool looking when beading water off the wheels too

Bugs always come off easy now, and even after it rains the car stays clean.

Crusty Old Shellback · Sep 5, 2012

The dealer had already applied the shield when I went to buy the car. I told him I wasn't interested and wasn't going to pay for it so they wrote it off the list price and gave it to me with the warrenty of 5 years and a reapply every year.

He said it didn't need waxing so I haven't waxed the car since I got it last Oct. So far the paint still looks good and beads well. I take the car to a hand wash car wash that I've been using for years.

dg_moore · Sep 5, 2012

RedJet20 said:
A complete waste of money. NEVER get that stuff. Extended warranties are also very suspect.

Click and Clack - the tappet brothers - on Car Talk believe aftermarket paint protection is a perfect product (for the dealer, that is). It's cheap, and the customer can't tell if it's been applied or not.

Vermillion3 · Sep 5, 2012

http://www.autopia.org/forum/product-reviews/129483-optimum-opti-coat-review-4.html

This ride was far from new but the Opti-Coat seems to have gone on well and performed well for over a year in a very wet environment.

Hum don't know that I would put this on a new ride though. Seems to me that it is like those films you put on your touch screens to protect them. Yeah they are great protection but if you mess up during the application of them you end up with imperfections that mar an otherwise perfect surface. Only difference with Opti Coat is you just can't peel it off and start over.

scottdk · Sep 5, 2012

Vermillion3 said:
http://www.autopia.org/forum/product-reviews/129483-optimum-opti-coat-review-4.html

This ride was far from new but the Opti-Coat seems to have gone on well and performed well for over a year in a very wet environment.

Hum don't know that I would put this on a new ride though. Seems to me that it is like those films you put on your touch screens to protect them. Yeah they are great protection but if you mess up during the application of them you end up with imperfections that mar an otherwise perfect surface. Only difference with Opti Coat is you just can't peel it off and start over.

A Pro install is best. Let them clean up the finish and apply product.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8FAw3J-Us&feature=plcp"]Opti-Guard Hydrophobic properties.wmv - YouTube[/ame]

Potty_Pants · Sep 5, 2012

Ive used zaino for 10 years now . Holds up very well. Trying klasse but still expect zaino to exceed in shine and duration

kman · Sep 6, 2012

scottdk said:
A Pro install is best. Let them clean up the finish and apply product.

Opti-Guard Hydrophobic properties.wmv - YouTube

I am curious, how much can these applications cost? I read somewhere before that the coat does not hide any paint defects, so any corrections need to be done prior to applying it. This would mean an extra cost of detailing your car by someone who knows what they are doing.

scottdk · Sep 6, 2012

kman said:
I am curious, how much can these applications cost? I read somewhere before that the coat does not hide any paint defects, so any corrections need to be done prior to applying it. This would mean an extra cost of detailing your car by someone who knows what they are doing.

You are correct. You don't want to put a permanent product on a finish that hasn't been "refreshed". That's why the detailer:

-Washes entire car
-Clay bar entire car including glass
-use a buffer to rid any blemishes, RIDS, or holograms, and may take anywhere from 1 to 3 passes with a buffer depending on the amount of correction desired.

-opti coat is than applied to a surgically clean finish.

My Optima was brand new when I brought the car to my detailer, but it had the dealer installed swirls, but only 1 pass with the buffer was needed. The car wash itself takes my detailer 1 hour, so you can imagine how many hours this whole process takes, which is why you don't get your car back the same day you dropped it off.

Cost for my Optima was $500 - Worth every penny to not have to wax again, plus have more paint protection. Plus the bugs now clean right off the finish without effort and the car seems to keep clean no matter what the weather.

My thanks to TJPARKS for advising of this product.

SmoovC · Sep 6, 2012

Often times dealerships will offer services such as “lifetime paint sealant” and say that if you purchase this, you will never have to wax your car again. This idea of a coating for your car that would protect it forever is a fantastic one, but unfortunately there is nothing on the market that will protect your paint forever. Even thick vinyl coatings like clear bra need to be refreshed at somepoint during your vehicle’s lifetime, depending on maintenance.

There is no such thing as a permanent wax or sealant. The technology simply does not exist. Think about it. How can a car wax product with a coating thickness less than one millionth of an inch protect your car for a lifetime, let alone for more than a few months? It simply can't.

In most climate conditions, it is recommended to wax a minimum of twice a year. Waxing any less frequently than this and your paint will suffer premature deterioration from oxidation. If you use a pure car wax (a car wax with no cleaners) product, you cannot over-wax your car.

scottdk · Sep 6, 2012

SmoovC said:
Often times dealerships will offer services such as “lifetime paint sealant” and say that if you purchase this, you will never have to wax your car again. This idea of a coating for your car that would protect it forever is a fantastic one, but unfortunately there is nothing on the market that will protect your paint forever. Even thick vinyl coatings like clear bra need to be refreshed at somepoint during your vehicle’s lifetime, depending on maintenance.

There is no such thing as a permanent wax or sealant. The technology simply does not exist. Think about it. How can a car wax product with a coating thickness less than one millionth of an inch protect your car for a lifetime, let alone for more than a few months? It simply can't.

In most climate conditions, it is recommended to wax a minimum of twice a year. Waxing any less frequently than this and your paint will suffer premature deterioration from oxidation. If you use a pure car wax (a car wax with no cleaners) product, you cannot over-wax your car.

Very true. Expect to get anywhere from 3 to 7 years out of the Opticoat depending on conditions etc. Being that I drive the Genesis about 5,000-6,000 miles per year and no winter, I'd expect it to last the rest of my ownership anyhow

Most waxes last about 1 month for the average driver and 2 months for a sealant, so if you're planning on always having paint protection on your car, you should be waxing your ride probably every 6 weeks.

I waxed my Genesis 5 times in the 1st year I owned it with the Liquid Ice. Each year I spent less and less time detailing the car after that

SmoovC · Sep 6, 2012

scottdk said:
Very true. Expect to get anywhere from 3 to 7 years out of the Opticoat depending on conditions etc. Being that I drive the Genesis about 5,000-6,000 miles per year and no winter, I'd expect it to last the rest of my ownership anyhow

Most waxes last about 1 month for the average driver and 2 months for a sealant, so if you're planning on always having paint protection on your car, you should be waxing your ride probably every 6 weeks. I waxed my Genesis 5 times in the 1st year I owned it with the Liquid Ice. Each year I spent less and less time detailing the car after that

Like you, I have found proactive finish maintenance to be far superior to reactive paint correction. Much less time consuming also, and somewhat therapeutic.

In other words, it takes less time to properly maintain your finish rather than to restore the finish once it has been neglected.

I am probably in the minority, but I am uber anal about preserving my vehicles. Among other vehicles, my oldest is a 2000 Dodge Dakota R/T with 85,XXX miles on it.

Here is its current paint condition:

Point being, properly maintained paint can and will last the life of the vehicle. Does it require some time and effort? Of course; anything worth it does!

scottdk · Sep 6, 2012

Wow, beautiful pics

- I've always loved the old R/T Dakota/Durango, and it's nice to see one still lookin' as good as most new vehicles! Nice reflection shot too.

I wasn't so proactive to begin my Genesis experience with. I have a before and after thread for my paint restoration. Can't believe the way my finish looked.

Glad I took it in for detailing and learned a hell of a lot of great info in the process.

krazyfiend · Sep 6, 2012

SmoovC said:
I am probably in the minority, but I am uber anal about preserving my vehicles. Among other vehicles, my oldest is a 2000 Dodge Dakota R/T with 85,XXX miles on it.

Beautiful shots! Thanks for sharing...

Hey, if you're going to be OCD about something, the utilization of detailing and paint care is a great outlet that pays dividends in satisfaction. Although my gf will gripe about my boxes of 'stuff' arriving from AG, DI, or Duragloss to feed my habit...she's always appreciative to drive a clean as can be car and enjoys when people think her 7 year old Audi A6 is only a couple years old.

She has yoga and tai chi ... I have the garage -- who needs a shrink?! This is proper therapy!

SmoovC · Sep 6, 2012

scottdk said:
Wow, beautiful pics - I've always loved the old R/T Dakota/Durango, and it's nice to see one still lookin' as good as most new vehicles! Nice reflection shot too.

I wasn't so proactive to begin my Genesis experience with. I have a before and after thread for my paint restoration. Can't believe the way my finish looked. Glad I took it in for detailing and learned a hell of a lot of great info in the process.

Thanks, it is a labor of love.

It is amazing what someone who knows what they are doing can pull off when restoring a finish. Yours, being black, I can imagine the results were astonishing!

krazyfiend said:
Beautiful shots! Thanks for sharing...

Hey, if you're going to be OCD about something, the utilization of detailing and paint care is a great outlet that pays dividends in satisfaction. Although my gf will gripe about my boxes of 'stuff' arriving from AG, DI, or Duragloss to feed my habit...she's always appreciative to drive a clean as can be car and enjoys when people think her 7 year old Audi A6 is only a couple years old.

She has yoga and tai chi ... I have the garage -- who needs a shrink?! This is proper therapy!

Absolutely agree; it is very satisfying to have the sharpest looking car of those around you, and fun to get it looking that way!

To the OP: did not mean to derail the thread in any way; merely pointing out that to keep your paint in like new looking condition takes some effort, there is no magic potion that will do it for you, no matter what the cost, despite what the Dealer tells you. What you are really buying is a maintenance contract with the product they are offering. If this is what you want, and it suits your needs, then perfect.

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