How turn off engine and leave A/V on?

OK - here's the situation . . you're driving home, pull in the garage and you want to hear the end of the song you've been listening to . . .

How?

With a key, you could turn back to the "accessory" detent and the radio would keep running while the engine turned off. But with the proximity key, you've got to completely shut off the vehicle by pushing the start button, then push the start button again without your foot on the brake to get the radio/AV to operate.

Any way to simply stop the engine without disrupting the music?

(I hope it's such a simple answer I'll be embarassed for asking). Thanks.

Just put shifter into 'N' position and press the 'Start/Stop' button.

joedoe said:

Just put shifter into 'N' position and press the 'Start/Stop' button.

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Thanks for the reply. Tried that - and it does leave the music playing, but then I have to restart the car to put it in PARK after I'm done listening.

Any other ideas?

Though a relatively minor issue, Hyundai should change this...On my 07 Dodge dually, after engine shutdown, the A/V stays on (even if you remove the key) for 30 mins or until someone opens their door (thus, completing the shutdown).

Another oversight is that all 4 door locks unlock once you put it (the base 3.8) in park...makes my wife nervious....And, after MUCH research (with Hyundai), theres no way to alter the programming period....Again they should of checked with Dodge Ram on this...

Inspite of these two nuances (and cold start hi-idle speed...), after 6,000 mi. this car is fabulous in every other way!!

No Regrets,

3 tons

joedoe said:

Just put shifter into 'N' position and press the 'Start/Stop' button.

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Tried it. It stayed on for less than a minute in my 2009 Tech, then everything shut down. I had not done anything except take off my seat belt. I had to restart to shift into park.

Pahaska said:

Tried it. It stayed on for less than a minute in my 2009 Tech, then everything shut down. I had not done anything except take off my seat belt. I had to restart to shift into park.

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Interesting, I've done it a few times since this thread started - it's worked fine for me. Tranny in Neutral, press the START/STOP button without pressing the brake pedal kills the engine but the stereo keeps playing without any interruptions/hiccups. Then to actually shut down everything, I turn the stereo OFF with the volume/power button on the head unit, press the START/STOP (foot OFF the brake) which makes the dash light up but the engine doesn't actually start, then foot on brake and shift into Park, release brake, press START/STOP again, and everything is OFF. The key is to have your foot off the brake pedal when pressing the START/STOP button.

Mine played for quite some time this afternoon this way - it didn't shut down on its own as Pahaska's car seems to. I was listening to the Steeler game while vacuuming the interior.

mike c.

Pahaska said:

Tried it. It stayed on for less than a minute in my 2009 Tech, then everything shut down. I had not done anything except take off my seat belt. I had to restart to shift into park.

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Works for me just fine on 2010 Gen with tech

mikec said:

The key is to have your foot off the brake pedal when pressing the START/STOP button.

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Thanks - yes it works. I tried it after reading your post and it didn't work. Then I PRINTED out your instructions and it works fine. (duh!)

As you said, to get out of N without restarting, you push the Start/Stop button WITHOUT touching the brake. Works fine

NOW - can anyone tell me how to keep the USB from playing automatically everytime I turn on the car? Do I really have to unplug it??

CenTexan said:

Thanks - yes it works. I tried it after reading your post and it didn't work. Then I PRINTED out your instructions and it works fine. (duh!)

As you said, to get out of N without restarting, you push the Start/Stop button WITHOUT touching the brake. Works fine

NOW - can anyone tell me how to keep the USB from playing automatically everytime I turn on the car? Do I really have to unplug it??

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... or, switch to another audio input (XM or AM/FM radio)? Yes.

3 tons said:

Another oversight is that all 4 door locks unlock once you put it (the base 3.8) in park...makes my wife nervious....And, after MUCH research (with Hyundai), theres no way to alter the programming period

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Don't let them tell you this. Just like the unlocking function where the drivers door needs 2 presses on the button to unlock all doors, it can be changed. The sad part is that it is not user set, but the dealers programmer has a whole section for this. I have had mine changed to 1 press all doors unlock, and was asked about other options including what doors unlock when the vehicle is put into park. It just requires the right service tech willing to go through the numerous menus in the service scanner.

I have not asked about keeping auxiliary power on after engine shut down, but will at my next service

CenTexan said:

NOW - can anyone tell me how to keep the USB from playing automatically everytime I turn on the car? Do I really have to unplug it??

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What year car & what stereo package do you have? I leave the USB music stick installed all the time in my 2009 V8/Tech (17 speaker setup); the stereo doesn't "auto power ON" when I start the vehicle. I have to either push the round on/off/volume knob or one of the AM/FM/XM/etc buttons on the DIS knob console to turn on the audio system. Even if I shut the car OFF while the USB music is playing it doesn't power ON automatically next time... unless I shut the car off for just a minute or so - the Tech system only goes to "standby" when you first shut the car off; after several minutes it fully shuts down.

mike c.

mikec said:

What year car & what stereo package do you have? I leave the USB music stick installed all the time in my 2009 V8/Tech (17 speaker setup); the stereo doesn't "auto power ON" when I start the vehicle. I have to either push the round on/off/volume knob or one of the AM/FM/XM/etc buttons on the DIS knob console to turn on the audio system. Even if I shut the car OFF while the USB music is playing it doesn't power ON automatically next time... unless I shut the car off for just a minute or so - the Tech system only goes to "standby" when you first shut the car off; after several minutes it fully shuts down.

mike c.

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Really??? I own that same model/year and can assure you that my stereo absolutely does "auto power ON" when I start the vehicle. It has always been this way.

Strange difference, to be certain. Can anyone explain this inconsistency?

Same here. Never have to turn the stereo on unless I turn it off. Shut the car off with the stereo on, when you start it up it will come back on, and yes, if you have a usb drive plugged in it will have priority over dvd.

USB *always* comes on when car is started. In fact, I've tried turning the volume to 0 before turning off, but it comes back on at 3 - everytime. If I unplug the USB stick, the AV does not come back on.

Really annoying - the car has "trained" me to perform this little dance routine everytime I start it: foot on brake, push start, fasten seat belt, push the DIS (for the nag screen), AND now - push the on/off on the AV head.

I have a 2011 (July build) 3.8 with tech/nav.

This auto-power-ON stuff is interesting. I'm in the habit of turning the stereo OFF as I park the car - it's just a habit to turn everything OFF first (stereo, headlights, A/C, etc) even if there are automatic OFF functions like the headlight system. Since I also have a much older second car - no auto-anything - this is a habit for me. Also, I'm an Aerospace engineer with time in aircraft flight simulators (for engineering work - I re-program them) and "start up" and "shut down" procedures are very detailed & strict on aircraft.

So, over the weekend, I made a conscious effort to test the stereo "auto-power-on" stuff on my Genesis. I did multiple tests:
1: drove car with stereo ON (as normal) in XM mode. Parked & shut off the car without turning the stereo OFF. Hours later, started car and went for another drive. Result: no stereo auto-ON at all. I got the usual nag screen, then the navigation map display, until I turned the stereo ON manually.

2: repeat of #1, this timing selecting USB music just before parking the car. Still didn't manually shut off the stereo. Result: same as #1 - stereo was OFF when I started the car hours later.

3: repeat of #1, this time listening to the USB for half an hour before shutting off the car. Same results at next start-up: I still had to turn the stereo on manually.

All three tests used the same USB stick... and it was never unplugged. So my car seems totally different than others. It's an early 2009 build - just prior to the first suspension "fix" - and hasn't had any updates to the stereo firmware since I bought the car. I may refuse any firmware updates!

By the way, my USB memory stick doesn't "have priority" over CD/DVD either. If the stereo is fully OFF, or ON and set to AM/FM/XM... when I press the DVD/AUX button it ALWAYS goes to CD/DVD mode first - I have to press the button twice to get to the USB stick. Once the USB is playing I can switch to the nav screens, car setting screens, phone screens, etc. and then press DVD/AUX one time to return to the currently playing USB directory/song. A second push switches to DVD/CD mode.

I don't use voice commands for anything in the car - it flat-out doesn't understand me. Maybe I'll try a #4 test: turning the stereo ON by voice command and see if it turns back ON on the subsequent re-start. And test #5: using voice commands to turn the stereo OFF when parking instead of the round volume button. You folks with "auto-power-ON" stereo systems: are you using voice commands to turn the stereo ON or OFF? How quickly does the stereo "auto-power-ON" by the way - the instant the engine starts, after the nav system finishes its start-up delay/test, etc? I turn my stereo ON while the nav is still "waking up" so maybe I should try waiting a bit longer? Though when I have passengers (typically my folks) I don't use the stereo at all and I don't remember it coming on by itself after the nav system finished waking up...

mike c.

Fascinating stuff, Mike.

As far as I know, my Genesis is also early '09 build date (though maybe not as early as yours). I'm quite sure it's pre-"suspension fix(es)".


Regarding your tests, here is the re-iterated comparison with my Genesis (evidently shared by the majority of Genesises). My stereo definitely auto-powers-on upon ignition, regardless of chosen source. It plays the same source and volume level that was playing upon last shut-down (unless volume level of <3 at shut-down, in which case it forces the volume level to 3 at start up).


As for your USB source's neutral "priority" vs. other sources, I can verify that my system works exactly as yours in this regard. CD/DVD playback is always activated on first button push and USB playback on second push, unless USB is already in playback mode, then the first push brings up the USB info screen without effecting playback.


On to your final question: "How quickly does the USB begin playback upon car ignition?" I think this varies a little depending on the size and type of your USB, the folder structure therein, the number of saved files, the format they're saved in, etc. Personally, though, I've never had anything near immediate playback of USB sources upon ignition. Without specifically testing it, I'd say that all the sources seem to wait for the nav software to load up before "locking in" and beginning to play. You may want to wait longer at start-up to make sure this isn't the issue, after all. I've become totally accustomed to the delayed playback upon ignition (it isn't that bad, IMO), but I could understand it throwing some off.

Let us know what you discover!!!

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You folks with "auto-power-ON" stereo systems: are you using voice commands to turn the stereo ON or OFF? How quickly does the stereo "auto-power-ON" by the way - the instant the engine starts, after the nav system finishes its start-up delay/test, etc? I turn my stereo ON while the nav is still "waking up" so maybe I should try waiting a bit longer? Though when I have passengers (typically my folks) I don't use the stereo at all and I don't remember it coming on by itself after the nav system finished waking up...

mike c.

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Thanks for your diligence in research!

I'm the OP. The USB/AV starts automatically after the nav system wakes up. It also starts up when I do not hit ENTER on the nag screen. And I didn't realize I could turn on the AV with voice command, so it has always been done with the knob on the head unit (which broke the other day - the knob, not the head unit).

Another angle - If I'm listening to radio/XM, place car in park, turn off AV with knob (leaving USB plugged in), turn off car . . . next time I start car, the radio/XM comes on by itself.

I'll try removing the USB and do a few checks and post back.

double post - see following post.

CenTexan said:

Another angle - If I'm listening to radio/XM, place car in park, turn off AV with knob (leaving USB plugged in), turn off car . . . next time I start car, the radio/XM comes on by itself.

I'll try removing the USB and do a few checks and post back.

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I wonder if your system is never fully turning OFF? When you first shut off the car, the Tech system stereo (and maybe the other units? Don't know, don't have one of those) goes to a standby mode rather than fully shutting down. This way the nav system can turn back on more quickly. After 10 to 20 minutes with the car parked and no activity, the stereo system fully powers OFF. Notice that if you use the key fob to unlock the car (after it has been parked for a while) but DON'T open the door for a moment, the stereo/nav has begun the wake-up cycle. I notice this when I'm walking out to the car after work and unlock it, open the trunk, and dump stuff in the trunk. By the time I'm seated and start the engine, the nav is pretty much fully ready. So any time the car gets a hint "driver is nearby or we may be going soon" the stereo/nav starts waking up.

If something is wrong elsewhere in your car, your stereo may be constantly triggered, never going from standby to full-OFF. Thus it's ready to "resume" whatever you were doing last.

I just did a quickie test in the garage. I didn't drive the Genesis at all today. The test was:
* unlock the doors with the key fob - two presses to unlock everything
* wait about half a minute...
* open the door and press START twice
The nav system wasn't quite ready but I got the nag screen immediately - no "Genesis" splash screen first.
* Once the map displayed, I turned on XM. Let it go a minute.
* shut off car without turning off the stereo
* opened the door (though I didn't get out of the car...)
* used the fob to lock the car
* sat there for another minute
* unlocked the car with the fob, then opened the door. Basically I simulated parking the car, leaving it for a minute to run into 7-11, and coming back.
* pushed START twice.
Results: XM woke up almost instantly... then the nav came up a bit later.

I left XM on again as I shut the car off and locked it with the fob. I'll go out there in half an hour or so... unlock it with the fob twice again, START twice, etc. and see what the stereo does.

Any chance the folks with "auto ON" stereos have also experienced the weak/dead batteries described in other posts? Some folks found their batteries depleted after the car was parked for just 2 or so days... mine has been parked for 3+ weeks at a time with no battery issues. Many of those cars had a missing rubber bumper on the underside of the hood: it should be on the driver side edge of the hood, it's about half an inch in diameter, black round thing, and it's located between the aft (windshield) edge of the hood and the larger (1 inch) rubber piece that supports the hood when closed. If the small rubber piece is missing the vehicle again assumes "somebody is nearby - stay awake and ready" which kills the battery... and perhaps keeps the stereo in the "standby" mode, ready to resume after your supposedly quick run into 7-11.

do-dah... do-dah... reading other genesisowners.com threads trying to kill half an hour before doing the second part of my test... will edit this post with the results...

Okay, it's been a while. I did the double-FOB unlock, waited a moment, opened the door and got in, pushed START twice, and sat there... "Genesis" splash screen displayed, then the nag screen. And then XM started on its own. ?? I left the stereo ON again as I shut the car off and re-locked it. I'll repeat the test in a couple of hours.

mike c.

Well, after leaving my car sit for about 3 hours, the stereo auto-ONs now. ??

I swear it DIDN'T auto-ON last weekend! I can't remember how long I waited during those tests; tonight it's taking about 5 seconds.

mike c.