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How Does Your Genesis Drive in Snow? Icy conditions?

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I am considering a 3.8 lease but living outside of Boston I have always had 4WD or AWD. Test drove one today and loved it! I found a snowy and really icy road and seemed to do ok with the esc helping out. I know that snow tires will help but I just don't want to be left on the side of the road in a storm.
Anyone happy or disappointed with the Genesis in the snow?

This is my first thread post so I hope its not a repeat.
Thanks!
 
My V8 is great in the snow and ice
I go up to the Jersey mountains on weekends and I climbed a very high hill and traction control kept me from sliding out by braking each wheel individually.

I then decided to shut it off, to see how make of a difference it actually makes. When I looked from the ABS button to the road, i saw my car began to skid out. I then re-pressed the button to re-engage traction control and kept it that way. haha
 
JerryBunz25 said:
My V8 is great in the snow and ice
I go up to the Jersey mountains on weekends and I climbed a very high hill and traction control kept me from sliding out by braking each wheel individually.

I then decided to shut it off, to see how make of a difference it actually makes. When I looked from the ABS button to the road, i saw my car began to skid out. I then re-pressed the button to re-engage traction control and kept it that way. haha
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Your LSD probably helped a lot too
 
I live in Ottawa, Ontario and I own a 3.8 since early Dec. The car handles well in light snow condition, but not as well as my 04 Sonata with snow tires. I won't drive my 3.8 when the roads are icy, snowy, or if the temperature drops below -20C or 0F. I will buy 4snow tires next fall for my Genesis.
 
Paul,

This subject has been covered previously in numerous threads (try searching on winter wheels, snow, etc.), but the bottom line is that if you put snow tires on your Genesis, it will perform just fine. I've been driving RWD cars for nearly 20 years, and between good snow tires, a nearly-perfect front/back weight ratio (the V6 is a bit better than the V8, but the V8 has LSD) and a good ESC chip, you'll do fine. I've driven nearly 4,000 miles since I installed Blizzaks on my car -- and we've had at least 20 measurable "snow events" since then -- and I'll take it pretty much anywhere.
 
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musher51 said:
Paul,

This subject has been covered previously in numerous threads (try searching on winter wheels, snow, etc.), but the bottom line is that if you put snow tires on your Genesis, it will perform just fine. I've been driving RWD cars for nearly 20 years, and between good snow tires, a nearly-perfect front/back weight ratio (the V6 is a bit better than the V8, but the V8 has LSD) and a good ESC chip, you'll do fine. I've driven nearly 4,000 miles since I installed Blizzaks on my car -- and we've had at least 20 measurable "snow events" since then -- and I'll take it pretty much anywhere.
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Can you please share where you get the LSD on a V8 from? Also, if the V8 got the LSD, is it a mechanical or electronical? 1way, 1.5way or 2way LSD?
I tried to do some research and looks like this is not cover in anywhere except there is a line showen on the CAN Hyundai website?
 
Perhaps I'm misspoke about the V8s having LSD. I don't know that for a fact, but seem to recall reading about it on this site. As a V6 owner, I know for sure that I don't have LSD, but I'll leave it to one of the well-informed V8 owners to clarify what their cars are equipped with.
 
I drive mine in New Hampshire with Dunlop Winter Sport 3Ds. It handles great in the snow.
 
Get winter tires or else you are risking your life if there are any significant snow accumulations.
 
Even though this topic has been about tires, in heavy snow conditions, the proximity alarm on our car with the tech package went off with a solid tone as though you were within 1 foot of the next car even though you were several car lengths away. A little unnerving when you are concentrating on driving. Anyone else have this problem?
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musher51 said:
Perhaps I'm misspoke about the V8s having LSD. I don't know that for a fact, but seem to recall reading about it on this site. As a V6 owner, I know for sure that I don't have LSD, but I'll leave it to one of the well-informed V8 owners to clarify what their cars are equipped with.
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Well.. thank you. If the V8 got the LSD, i will defintely go for a V8 as a customs fitted LSD can cost about 1-2K easy plus the bigger engine and better leather surface.. the V8 is a more good buy...
Please share info if you have come across any info about this topic
 
dtreter said:
Even though this topic has been about tires, in heavy snow conditions, the proximity alarm on our car with the tech package went off with a solid tone as though you were within 1 foot of the next car even though you were several car lengths away. A little unnerving when you are concentrating on driving. Anyone else have this problem?
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Do you mean the parking sensors? If so, yes...if snow/ice accumulates on them, they'll perceive that as something you're about to hit and emit a warning tone. I've had my park assist button off most of the winter to prevent bogus "notifications".
 
drew0020 said:
Get winter tires or else you are risking your life if there are any significant snow accumulations.
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A little dramatic I think. Yes, many snowbelters have put winter tires on their Gens. Some of us haven't and are doing just fine. The real risk of lives comes from those who overdrive their cars in winter conditions, whether RW, FW, 4W, all-season or studs.
Which Gen do you have again?
 
BacktoHyundaibychoice said:
A little dramatic I think. Yes, many snowbelters have put winter tires on their Gens. Some of us haven't and are doing just fine. The real risk of lives comes from those who overdrive their cars in winter conditions, whether RW, FW, 4W, all-season or studs.
Which Gen do you have again?
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I think you missed the word "significant" snow accumulations. I dont think this statement is dramatic by any means. If you have a $40K RWD automobile spend $1K on winter tires if you plan on driving in those conditions. You might be doing just fine, but you are rolling the dice each and every time you drive it.

I have the 4.6 silver/black Genesis, but no need for winter tires in the south. Always had winter tires on my 2006 BMW 330i in CT. Anything less in my opinion is careless for yourself and other drivers.
 
The genesis 3.8 is my first RWD car and I'm not very impressed with how it handles slippery conditions. After parking during a snowstorm, my car had about 6 inches (15 cm, eh?) of snow around it. My FWD Accord would have just rolled out, no problem but the Genny got stuck. Rocking it is difficult because you can't select 2nd gear without moving the shifter over and then it's awkward to get back to the R. After 5 or 6 back-&-forths, I got out but it had me worried. However, there is another behaviour of the car I find more concerning: Pulling onto a busy road from a stop in very icy/snowy conditions. I turned out of the gas station knowing I had plenty of time to get up to speed before the 50mph traffic caught up. But after the turn when I tried to accelerate, the ESC completely cut the power. I seems the harder I pressed the accelerator, the slower it went. I understand the ESC's objective but if I'm pointed in a straight line, it should not completely override my throttle input and cut the power (I even wonder if it was applying the brakes). After experimenting, I've figured out the best way to handle these situations is to start from 2nd gear, turn the ESC OFF and be gentle on the throttle. My wife is actually scared to drive it in the snow (though maybe that's a good thing). That's my 2 cents - advice and comments are welcome.
PS: I have Yokohama IceGuard IG20's. Genesis + snowy climate - winter tires = Insanity
 
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From Hyundai:

"The Genesis has Electronic Stability Control (ESC) with Traction Control System (TCS), a cutting-edge driving stability system designed to sense oversteer and understeer conditions. During unexpected and dangerous situations, it adjusts the braking power of each wheel utilizing the Traction Control System to help restore the driver&#8217;s intended course.

Electronic Stability Control (ESC) and Traction Control System (TCS) are meant to enhance conscientious driving habits and are not a substitute for safe driving practices."​

Also this:

"Genesis&#8217; advanced Traction Control System senses unexpected wheelspin during acceleration, then automatically applies the appropriate combination of brakes and throttle to route power to the tire with the most traction, helping you maintain control in treacherous driving conditions."​

Both ESC and TCS are standard on both 3.8 and 4.6 models according to the eBrochure.
 
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Canadian said:
The genesis 3.8 is my first RWD car and I'm not very impressed with how it handles slippery conditions. After parking during a snowstorm, my car had about 6 inches (15 cm, eh?) of snow around it. My FWD Accord would have just rolled out, no problem but the Genny got stuck. Rocking it is difficult because you can't select 2nd gear without moving the shifter over and then it's awkward to get back to the R. After 5 or 6 back-&-forths, I got out but it had me worried. However, there is another behaviour of the car I find more concerning: Pulling onto a busy road from a stop in very icy/snowy conditions. I turned out of the gas station knowing I had plenty of time to get up to speed before the 50mph traffic caught up. But after the turn when I tried to accelerate, the ESC completely cut the power. I seems the harder I pressed the accelerator, the slower it went. I understand the ESC's objective but if I'm pointed in a straight line, it should not completely override my throttle input and cut the power (I even wonder if it was applying the brakes). After experimenting, I've figured out the best way to handle these situations is to start from 2nd gear, turn the ESC OFF and be gentle on the throttle. My wife is actually scared to drive it in the snow (though maybe that's a good thing). That's my 2 cents - advice and comments are welcome.
PS: I have Yokohama IceGuard IG20's. Genesis + snowy climate - winter tires = Insanity
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When I testdrove the Geni I had the same throttle cut what you had. I think the ESC and TSC is too sensitive. Although It had only all seasons on the car. I knoww I drive my friends BMW and they are not that restricted as the Geni.

This was one of the reason I went for the AWD car instead of the Geni. Hopefully down the road Hyundai will condider to make an AWD version. Maybe a little smaller size too.
 
Canadian said:
The genesis 3.8 is my first RWD car and I'm not very impressed with how it handles slippery conditions...I have Yokohama IceGuard IG20's.
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Interesting input. I can't say I've had a similar experience (where ESC robs me of significant amounts of power, rendering me unable to get to speed). While I'll concede that the ESC circuitry is very active and engages frequently, I haven't found its response to be out of proportion to the "conditions du jour". Similarly, I haven't had any problems getting going when my car's surrounded by a few inches (cm's, eh?) of snow.

Like you, I have the V6, so one of the only variables between us is the brand of snow tire we're using. I looked up Yokohama Ice Guards on tirerack.com, but couldn't find that model. Other Yokohama offerings are rated well for winter driving, though. For my part, I'm a big Blizzak fan...I'm on my fifth or sixth set.

I'm sorry to hear that your first impression of winter driving - with RWD cars in general and the Genesis in particular - is poor, but I don't have any suggestions for you. My experience with both the Genesis and several other RWD cars I've owned is much different. I have a choice of RWD, FWD and AWD in my garage right now, and I invariably select the Genesis over the others regardless of weather or road conditions. With nearly 5,000 miles under my belt so far this winter, the car has earned my complete confidence.
 
musher51 said:
Perhaps I'm misspoke about the V8s having LSD. I don't know that for a fact, but seem to recall reading about it on this site. As a V6 owner, I know for sure that I don't have LSD, but I'll leave it to one of the well-informed V8 owners to clarify what their cars are equipped with.
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The V/8 does have LSD, but I'll have to search to give details of what type
"The V8 4.6L Tau twin-cam, 32-valve, 100% alloy engine produces a stunning 375 horsepower @ 6200 rpm with 333 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm. Coming with a ZF 6-speed SHIFTRONIC® transmission and an LSD rear wheel drive."
 
I have the V6 Prem. Plus, I found myself spinning on just a small amount of ice, where my 05 XG350L W/ FWD would have pulled me out with no problem. I wish Genesis had a Quattro like Audi. I really miss FWD.
 
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